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    1. fa2nzg

      fa2nzg Well-Known Member

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      So im getting the hang of this nutrition stuff, just correct me ifim wrong here, but the type of carbohydrate doesnt matter as long as you hit your macro (so brown rice or sweet potatoes are interchangeable if you are trying to gain mass right). And feeling your calorie intake with more protein than carbs or fat will give you a clean bulk?
      Are these wrong assumptions to make?

       
    2. alomjabpd

      alomjabpd Well-Known Member

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      Carbs are carbs, yes.

      A 'clean' bulk would be eating eating in a small caloric surplus to minimize fat gain. Whichever macros create the surplus (beyond hitting the minimum fat and protein), is of far lesser importance than the size of he deficit in terms of body composition.
       
    3. suighja

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      but a caloric surplus due to more protein lead you to burning more fat? or is that a misconception?
       
    4. vijugati8g

      vijugati8g Well-Known Member

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      The thermic effect of food for protein is a little higher than the others (I don't know the exact values), but it's near negligible. Plus you'll be in a surplus anyway and not burning fat. Most people go high carb when bulking, partly of performance benefits.
       
    5. suighja

      suighja Well-Known Member

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      with performance benefits you just mean having more energy or because carbs contain more calories than either fats or proteins? (btw sorry if isound like a novice in this)
       
    6. alomjabpd

      alomjabpd Well-Known Member

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      I really wouldn't say carbs are carbs.. there are simple carbs and complex carbs, and each can do different things for your energy levels. And there is no definition of a "clean" bulk.... as there are no such things as clean and dirty foods. Most people bulk in two different ways..

      1. attempting to gain 1/2 a pound a week for minimal fat gain
      2. attempting to gain 1 pound a week for 1/2 fat and 1/2 muscle
       
    7. vijugati8g

      vijugati8g Well-Known Member

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      No, carbs are just an efficient energy source. And yes, gym intensity is what I am referring to.

      fat=9 cal/g
      carb and proteni=4 cal/g

      The caveat of "...in terms of body composition" was omitted by me.
       
    8. masoven4u

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      So if get this correctly, im trying to gain mass and muscle and fat, and i have to gain 2lbs per week(according to my nutrionist, the guy seemed worried) i should try to get more complex carbs? in that case, brown rice or potatoes?
       
    9. vijugati8g

      vijugati8g Well-Known Member

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      Not exactly.

      1g protein = 4 calories
      1g carbohydrates = 4 calories
      1g fat = 10 calories
       
    10. crormaSoila18

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      Why 2 lbs? If you are eating right and exercising right, that extra pound or pound 1/2 will be fat... And complex carbs take longer to break down, therefore slowly distributing energy... simple carbs are almost like instant energy.. Ever feed a little kid tons of candy and he snaps? Complex carbs also tend to be more nutritious as well.

      1g fat = 9 calories
       

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