Help!!! In know it really takes some time. My 1st real test cycle I stacked with xtren and I gained 12lbs in 4 weeks, but again that was a bulk diet. Naturally I put on fat easily on a bulk even though cals arent that much. I always read that people are cutting and eating 300-500g of carbs and when I cut it gets down to 50g of carbs coming from veggies and shakes and whatnot and I lose a 1lb a week...And last night I finally saw some one like me. The 1st place for powerlifting at the arnold said when training for a strong man he eats around 3500 cals and everyone was like WHAT!