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    Discussion in 'Anabolic Zone' started by vijugati8g, Apr 26, 2012.

    1. vijugati8g

      vijugati8g Well-Known Member

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      For a 6 week cycle dosed at 30/30/30/40/40/40. What would Happen If i didn't and Just ran an otc pct product such as a daa test booster?

       
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      Is it ok to run havoc without a serm?

      Why did you even bother asking this question.. Do not run a PH without a SERM... Chances are you a risking gyno... Take your chances...
       
    3. jailynn24hb

      jailynn24hb Well-Known Member

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      Is it ok to run havoc without a serm?

      Can you? Yes.

      Is it a good idea? No.

      Will you get gyno? Probably

      Will it take you a few months to recover? Yes

      Will you be able to get a hard on after cycle? Maybe
       
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      alomjabpd Well-Known Member

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      Is it ok to run havoc without a serm?

      Perfect! Lol ^This
       
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      Is it ok to run havoc without a serm?

      Correct me if im wrong, but from what I've read you can't get gyno from havoc because it doesn't convert to estrogen?
       
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      fa2nzg Well-Known Member

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      Is it ok to run havoc without a serm?

      Estrogen rebounds post cycle...it has nothing to do with it converting to estrogen. When your body bounces back your estrogen levels will too... Read the PCT thread...
       
    7. herunder88

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      Is it ok to run havoc without a serm?

      It been done THOUSANDS of times and most dont have an issue. I would use DAA and ATD if you can still find some, if not Triazole should work
       
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      Is it ok to run havoc without a serm?

      Why do you want to not use a SERM? it's cheaper than buying test boosters and estrogen blockers.

      You could most likely get away fine with it, but I wouldnt take the OTC route for more than this one cycle.
       
    9. crormaSoila18

      crormaSoila18 Well-Known Member

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      Is it ok to run havoc without a serm?

      I know what a daa is. What does an atd do?
       
    10. masoven4u

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      Is it ok to run havoc without a serm?

      You sure about that? I looked up clomid and for a sufficient amount I couldnt find it cheaper than like 48 dollars. If I was gonna use revolution pct (otc test booster/estro blocker) it would only be like $40. Plus im sure the shipping rates are outrageous for those foreign pharmacy sites.
       
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