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    1. Raleoxilevz

      Raleoxilevz Well-Known Member

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      Been reading all through for the forum for a while to the point of my head spinning.

      I have been lifting serious for a little over two years counting macros/doing layne nortons PHAT. I am 6'2 195 lbs currently. I was 204lbs, currently cutting. I was thinking of the cycle after my cut is complete. At around 13 bf% currently trying for 10> %. While on cycle I will be doing +500 calories over maintenece.

      Wanted suggestions on something not harsh with low to no sides.

      Already have/will take during:
      Controlled labs fish
      Controlled labs orange triad
      Cissus
      CEL cycle assist
      Protein (trutein/xf)

      Looking for suggestions on :
      what PH to use/dosage
      supplements to take before, during, after

      Ai cycle support/ post cycle any good or is it a waste of time?

      thanks for any help... be gentle.
       
    2. addme

      addme Well-Known Member

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      First (possible) cycle need help

      you trying to bulk, cut, recomp?
       
    3. masoven4u

      masoven4u Well-Known Member

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      First (possible) cycle need help

      right now im cutting. I was planning to do it after the cut with a little caloric surplus. Also forgot to mention im 25 years old.
       
    4. suighja

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      First (possible) cycle need help

      i also have PES anabeta
       
    5. alomjabpd

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      First (possible) cycle need help

      do you mean less than 10%? cuz if you are tring to stay above 10% i dont think that will be a problem
       
    6. masoven4u

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      First (possible) cycle need help

      i want to cut to 10% or just under
       
    7. fa2nzg

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      First (possible) cycle need help

      we are close to the same size, ive lost 7lbs 6ish weeks by changing my work out session to 4 sets of 15 reps at high pace. went from 11.8% bf to 8.3%bf. i also started logging my diet... every thing... i dont count calories i count macros then calculate my calories that way. if your only wanting to burn 3% bf you could probably do it just as fast without ph. i will tell you i dont like weighing 186lbs. i feel small, and cold!
       
    8. Raleoxilevz

      Raleoxilevz Well-Known Member

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      First (possible) cycle need help

      i know i already feel small.

      just to be clear- I want to finish my cut, do a cycle at a small caloric surplus. I am counting my calories/macros.
       
    9. masoven4u

      masoven4u Well-Known Member

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      First (possible) cycle need help

      Helladrol on a lean bulk bro would b very nice.
       
    10. fa2nzg

      fa2nzg Well-Known Member

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      First (possible) cycle need help

      Im starting a helladrol cycle in about 2 weeks and ill also be using

      CL orange triad
      CL fish oil
      & AI cycle support... But im using cycle support pre cycle dyring cyxle nd post cycle

      And throwing driven sports triazole into mix during pct with some daa an o course my serm
       
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