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    Discussion in 'Fat Loss' started by crormaSoila18, Feb 18, 2012.

    1. crormaSoila18

      crormaSoila18 Well-Known Member

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      Age: 24
      Weight: 205 lbs
      Two cycles completed

      Epi at 40 for 6 weeks.
      Albuterol during PCT (SERM of course).
      Cortisol control during PCT.

      Caloric intake: 400 above maintenance.
      Lift 5-6 days a week.
      HIIT @ 5 times a week, 15-20 minutes.

      To clarify: I wont be cutting during PCT.

      Really want to trim this waistline without losing the great muscle gains I've made. I dont expect t3h 8pax, i just want to get rid of the excess flab and maybe put on some muscle.

      Also, any good calculators for calculating maintenance? I think I found a good one @ http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/issa64.htm but im welcome to any suggestions regarding diet. Thanks in advance.
       
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      vijugati8g Well-Known Member

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      Would I be able to retain/gain muscle and lose fat on this cycle?

      age? cycle history? diet? and do you plan on eating at maitenance?

      EDIT: sorry, i did not see that you plan on eating 400 above maitenance lol even though its in bold...
       
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      Would I be able to retain/gain muscle and lose fat on this cycle?

      24. This would be my third cycle. Diet, Im not entirely sure to be honest (I know, most important). I was going to use swole.me to help plan out a good diet plan, or figure that out tonight and tomorrow...Any useful links would be appreciated...but if i should use the search function thats cool with me too lol.
       
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      Would I be able to retain/gain muscle and lose fat on this cycle?

      How old were you when you started cycling if you dont mind me asking? And for maintenance I follow something generic like
      2-3x's bodyweight in grams of carbs
      1.5-2x's bodyweight in grams of protein
      2 tbs pb or 1 tbs olive oil in first 4 meals
      Split the protein and carbs evenly throughout the day for 6 meals. Worked pretty well for me last year before I stopped training for a while due to injuries. Actually got a bit harder while gaining about 2lbs for the month I was on it. Btw I'd cut the hiit to 2-3 times a week max if your trying to keep most of the mass you've gained.
       
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      Would I be able to retain/gain muscle and lose fat on this cycle?

      Thanks for the info.

      And I was 23. First cycle was like 4 weeks of low dosed epi.
       
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      Would I be able to retain/gain muscle and lose fat on this cycle?

      Any time. No test?
       
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      Korporalegq Well-Known Member

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      Would I be able to retain/gain muscle and lose fat on this cycle?

      If I could, I would. No clue where to get any.
       
    8. Raleoxilevz

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      Would I be able to retain/gain muscle and lose fat on this cycle?

      make sure you get into the habit of counting your calories and keeping a clean diet! i would add daa, a natty test booster, and pct assist by CEL into pct along with your serm. and make sure to have liver support and something with omegas(for both cycle and pct)
       
    9. Terry4

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      Would I be able to retain/gain muscle and lose fat on this cycle?

      Oh definitely, I just posted directly relevant stuff for the cycle. going to use torem, daa, fish oil, and cycle assist. no point trying to cut if im gonna grow bitch tits!
       
    10. fa2nzg

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      Would I be able to retain/gain muscle and lose fat on this cycle?

      I am no pro by any means, but I have run epi 3-4 times and 40 is kind of high to start I think. It caused me to dry out at 40mg and 4 wks to the point that I didn't want to take it anymore.

      Also, I would do like the person mentioned above and cut the hit off of training days for sure, and if you really want to do cardio on the day you lift just do LISS.
      As far as diet, I would look into the lean gains diet. I lost 6lbs in a week on leangains, and I didn't lose any muscle mass, my lifts have still been increasing too. even if you don't want to do the fasting I still think the numbers work well for a cutting cycle. With the epi you could eat at a small deficit on the days you aren't lifting and then the days you are lifting eat at +2-300 cals.
      On a clean bulk I was only eating 400 cals over maint on days I lifted and 200 over on my off days. I think if you were at 400 over every day you wouldn't do much cutting at all.
      Cutting is done in the kitchen not really in the gym, so you can hit that deficit on your off days and the epi will give you what you need to keep from losing mass.

      Are you planning on using the daa in pct, or on cycle?
       

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